Issue 10527: Add Project Management dependencies for activities (FF, FS, SF, SS) (bpmn-ftf) Source: International Business Machines (Dr. Stephen White, wstephe@us.ibm.com sawscape@gmail.com) Nature: Uncategorized Issue Severity: Summary: Project management models define the start/finish relationships between activities. This is handled in four ways: Finish-Finish; Finish-Start; Start-Finish; and Start-Start. Current BPMN Flow handles two of the four. A sequential flow of activities is a Finish-Start; a parallel set of activities is a Start-Start. But the other two combinations are not definable. The solution may not require graphical canges to BPMN, but there should be some behavioral support for these situations. Resolution: Suggested Resolution: Close, No Change: This issue is out of scope for the RTF and will be addressed by the response to the BPMN 2.0 RFP. Revised Text: None Disposition: Closed, deferred Revised Text: Actions taken: December 15, 2006: received issue July 18, 2008: closed issue Discussion: Defer: The modification suggested by this issue is out of scope for the FTF. This will be handled through other OMG mechanisms, such as an RFP for the next version of BPMN. End of Annotations:===== ubject: BPMN Issue X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 7.0 HF242 April 21, 2006 From: Stephen A White Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 13:58:26 -0800 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM690/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0.2HF32 | October 17, 2006) at 12/15/2006 14:58:27, Serialize complete at 12/15/2006 14:58:27 BPMN Issue: Add Project Management dependencies for activities (FF, FS, SF, SS) To: bpmn-ftf@omg.org Subject: Proposed Resolution for Issue 10527 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 7.0 HF242 April 21, 2006 From: Stephen A White Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 09:12:00 -0800 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM690/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0.2HF32 | October 17, 2006) at 02/06/2007 10:12:30, Serialize complete at 02/06/2007 10:12:30 This is intended for Ballot 7 Issue 10527: Add Project Management dependencies for activities (FF, FS, SF, SS) Description: Project management models define the start/finish relationships between activities. This is handled in four ways: Finish-Finish; Finish-Start; Start-Finish; and Start-Start. Current BPMN Flow handles two of the four. A sequential flow of activities is a Finish-Start; a parallel set of activities is a Start-Start. But the other two combinations are not definable. The solution may not require graphical changes to BPMN, but there should be some behavioral support for these situations. Discussion Thread in E-Mail Archive: Discussion Notes: Suggested Resolution: Defer: The modification suggested by this issue is out of scope for the FTF. This will be handled through other OMG mechanisms, such as an RFP for the next version of BPMN. Revised Text: None To: bpmn-ftf@omg.org Subject: Proposed Resolution for Issue 10527 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 7.0 HF242 April 21, 2006 From: Stephen A White Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 09:12:00 -0800 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM690/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0.2HF32 | October 17, 2006) at 02/06/2007 10:12:30, Serialize complete at 02/06/2007 10:12:30 This is intended for Ballot 7 Issue 10527: Add Project Management dependencies for activities (FF, FS, SF, SS) Description: Project management models define the start/finish relationships between activities. This is handled in four ways: Finish-Finish; Finish-Start; Start-Finish; and Start-Start. Current BPMN Flow handles two of the four. A sequential flow of activities is a Finish-Start; a parallel set of activities is a Start-Start. But the other two combinations are not definable. The solution may not require graphical changes to BPMN, but there should be some behavioral support for these situations. Discussion Thread in E-Mail Archive: Discussion Notes: Suggested Resolution: Defer: The modification suggested by this issue is out of scope for the FTF. This will be handled through other OMG mechanisms, such as an RFP for the next version of BPMN. Revised Text: None Subject: RE: Proposed Resolution for Issue 10527 Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 12:06:45 -0600 X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Proposed Resolution for Issue 10527 Thread-Index: AcdKEt3w146f1wZjQtqeoGO75n6vYQABoJPw From: "Cummins, Fred A" To: "Stephen A White" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Feb 2007 18:11:29.0086 (UTC) FILETIME=[39187DE0:01C74A1A] X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at omg.org This is addressed in the proposed BPDM specification. It may be convenient to provide a graphic for it, but it is not essential and certainly can be addressed when BPDM and BPMN are brought together. Fred -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stephen A White [mailto:wstephe@us.ibm.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 12:12 PM To: bpmn-ftf@omg.org Subject: Proposed Resolution for Issue 10527 This is intended for Ballot 7 Issue 10527: Add Project Management dependencies for activities (FF, FS, SF, SS) Description: Project management models define the start/finish relationships between activities. This is handled in four ways: Finish-Finish; Finish-Start; Start-Finish; and Start-Start. Current BPMN Flow handles two of the four. A sequential flow of activities is a Finish-Start; a parallel set of activities is a Start-Start. But the other two combinations are not definable. The solution may not require graphical changes to BPMN, but there should be some behavioral support for these situations. Discussion Thread in E-Mail Archive: Discussion Notes: Suggested Resolution: Defer: The modification suggested by this issue is out of scope for the FTF. This will be handled through other OMG mechanisms, such as an RFP for the next version of BPMN. Revised Text: None Project management models define the start/finish relationships between activities. This is handled in four ways: Finish-Finish; Finish-Start; Start-Finish; and Start-Start. Current BPMN Flow handles two of the four. A sequential flow of activities is a Finish-Start; a parallel set of activities is a Start-Start. But the other two combinations are not definable. The solution may not require graphical canges to BPMN, but there should be some behavioral support for these situations.