Issue 10631: owned definition and adopted definition are roles (sbvr-ftf) Source: NIST (Mr. Edward J. Barkmeyer, edbark(at)nist.gov) Nature: Uncategorized Issue Severity: Summary: Doc: SBVR, dtc/06-08-05 Date: September 2006 Version: FTF Interim Specification Chapter: 11.1.3 Related issues: none Title: owned definition and adopted definition are roles Source: Ed Barkmeyer, NIST, edbark@nist.gov Description: In clause 11.1.3, the terms 'owned definition' and 'adopted definition' are defined without reference to any category. They are both roles of the concept 'definition'. 'owned definition' is a role in the fact-type 'speech community owns owned definition' and ''adopted definition' is a role in the fact-type 'speech community adopts adopted definition from source vocabulary'. Recommendation: 1. In the entry for 'owned definition', immediately behind the Definition paragraph, ADD: "Concept type: role General concept: definition" 2. In the entry for 'adopted definition', immediately behind the Definition paragraph, ADD: "Concept type: role General concept: definition Resolution: Deferred to second SBVR Revision Task Force because there were more foundational issues that had to be resolved first, and it was very important SBVR v1.1 out as soon as they were done. Disposition: Deferred Revised Text: Actions taken: January 26, 2007: received issue Discussion: End of Annotations:===== te: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 17:50:26 -0500 From: Ed Barkmeyer Reply-To: edbark@nist.gov Organization: NIST User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en, fr, de, pdf, it, nl, sv, es, ru To: issues@omg.org Subject: SBVR issue -- owned definition and adopted definition are roles X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact postmaster@mel.nist.gov for more information X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-MailScanner-From: edbark@nist.gov X-Spam-Status: No Doc: SBVR, dtc/06-08-05 Date: September 2006 Version: FTF Interim Specification Chapter: 11.1.3 Related issues: none Title: owned definition and adopted definition are roles Source: Ed Barkmeyer, NIST, edbark@nist.gov Description: In clause 11.1.3, the terms 'owned definition' and 'adopted definition' are defined without reference to any category. They are both roles of the concept 'definition'. 'owned definition' is a role in the fact-type 'speech community owns owned definition' and ''adopted definition' is a role in the fact-type 'speech community adopts adopted definition from source vocabulary'. Recommendation: 1. In the entry for 'owned definition', immediately behind the Definition paragraph, ADD: "Concept type: role General concept: definition" 2. In the entry for 'adopted definition', immediately behind the Definition paragraph, ADD: "Concept type: role General concept: definition" -- Edward J. Barkmeyer Email: edbark@nist.gov National Institute of Standards & Technology Manufacturing Systems Integration Division 100 Bureau Drive, Stop 8263 Tel: +1 301-975-3528 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.3.060209 Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 08:11:01 -1000 Subject: Re: issue 10631 -- SBVR FTF issue From: keri To: SBVR-FTF Thread-Topic: issue 10631 -- SBVR FTF issue Thread-Index: AcdD0NUME3aMwK/EEduwuwARJM+Cgg== On 1/29/07 6:24 AM, "Juergen Boldt" wrote: In clause 11.1.3, the terms 'owned definition' and 'adopted definition' are defined without reference to any category. Ed, Each of these is defined as a category of .definition. (ref. the screen shots from p. 119, above). Furthermore, these two categories are in a .categorization scheme., declared by the Necessity below the Definition for each concept. ~ Keri Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 15:59:08 -0500 From: Ed Barkmeyer Reply-To: edbark@nist.gov Organization: NIST User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en, fr, de, pdf, it, nl, sv, es, ru To: keri CC: SBVR-FTF Subject: Re: issue 10631 -- SBVR FTF issue X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact postmaster@mel.nist.gov for more information X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-MailScanner-From: edbark@nist.gov X-Spam-Status: No keri wrote: In clause 11.1.3, the terms 'owned definition' and 'adopted definition' are defined without reference to any category. Ed, Each of these is defined as a category of .definitionš (ref. the screen shots from p. 119, above). Furthermore, these two categories are in a .categorization schemeš, declared by the Necessity below the Definition for each concept. Thanks, Keri, I had missed the "categorization scheme" thing. Not to put too fine a point on it, I think this is dead wrong. Note that in clause 8.3.2, the reference scheme for 'definition' doesn't involve the community. A given 'Definition' is not in either category until it is adopted by a speech community, and if it is adopted by more than one, the same 'definition' is in both categories. These two "categories" are nothing more than roles in fact types, and the same 'definition' can participate in both of those roles, especially when multiple communities are trying to work together. So this categorization scheme is not unique. It has many instances, each of which is owned by a speech community, and it categorizes definitions relative to that community, but not to any other community. The actual delimiting characteristic for definitions involves 'involvements'. So Issue 10631 should be retitled: "Explicitness of Representation is not an individual concept" It seems to me that the concepts 'owned definition' and 'adopted definition' are always roles. They are meaningless without the explicit or implicit 'by speech community'. And it is not clear that formalizing the concept "Explicitness of Representation" (which is a curious name for ownership of definitions) is useful at all. -Ed P.S. I thought this was an editorial change. -- Edward J. Barkmeyer Email: edbark@nist.gov National Institute of Standards & Technology Manufacturing Systems Integration Division 100 Bureau Drive, Stop 8263 Tel: +1 301-975-3528 Gaithersburg, MD 20899-8263 FAX: +1 301-975-4694 "The opinions expressed above do not reflect consensus of NIST, and have not been reviewed by any Government authority." User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.3.060209 Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 14:28:30 -1000 Subject: Re: issue 10631 -- SBVR FTF issue - For Discussion (first cut at a Resolution) From: keri To: SBVR-FTF Thread-Topic: issue 10631 -- SBVR FTF issue - For Discussion (first cut at a Resolution) Thread-Index: AcdGYRAlTmofvLJUEdu0PgARJM+Cgg== X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at omg.org At yesterday.s meeting I agreed to draft a proposed new arrangement of things. In this proposal, the current designation of .adopted definition. and .owned definition. as categories has been removed .adopted definition. is a role, with a new definition (and .owned definition. is gone) Some structural rules are added. Two missing constraints (shown in red in the figure) are assumed (this is being covered in another Issue). The rest of the elements of the view are existing elements from various places in SBVR, shown here to provide a whole view. ~ Keri On 1/29/07 6:24 AM, "Juergen Boldt" wrote: This is issue # 10631 From: Ed Barkmeyer owned definition and adopted definition are roles Doc: SBVR, dtc/06-08-05 Date: September 2006 Version: FTF Interim Specification Chapter: 11.1.3 Related issues: none Title: owned definition and adopted definition are roles Source: Ed Barkmeyer, NIST, edbark@nist.gov Description: In clause 11.1.3, the terms 'owned definition' and 'adopted definition' are defined without reference to any category. They are both roles of the concept 'definition'. 'owned definition' is a role in the fact-type 'speech community owns owned definition' and ''adopted definition' is a role in the fact-type 'speech community adopts adopted definition from source vocabulary'. Recommendation: 1. In the entry for 'owned definition', immediately behind the Definition paragraph, ADD: "Concept type: role General concept: definition" 2. In the entry for 'adopted definition', immediately behind the Definition paragraph, ADD: "Concept type: role General concept: definition Juergen Boldt Director, Member Services Object Management Group 140 Kendrick St Building A Suite 300 Needham, MA 02494 USA tel: +1 781 444 0404 x 132 fax: +1 781 444 0320 email: juergen@omg.org www.omg.org User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.3.060209 Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 16:10:25 -1000 Subject: Re: issue 10631 -- SBVR FTF issue - For Discussion (alternative cut at a Resolution) From: keri To: SBVR-FTF Thread-Topic: issue 10631 -- SBVR FTF issue - For Discussion (alternative cut at a Resolution) Thread-Index: AcdGb0z4i68rLLJiEdu0PgARJM+Cgg== X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at omg.org This Issue raises the question of whether .owned definition. and .adopted definition. are roles or categories of .definition.. The previous solution I sent showed a solution for the .role. perspective. Here is a view for the .category. perspective. In this view (as in the first), the surrounding elements have been extracted as-is from SBVR to provide a .whole view.. The view also includes the two cardinality fixes that are assumed (shown in red). In this alternative, the key change is to add in to the (previously) ternary fact type a citation to the .symbol. within the source vocabulary. Via that symbol, we can navigate back to the concept and then on to a definition that represents the meaning that the speech community intends to .adopt. for its concept to have. ~ Keri ~ Keri Gaithersburg, MD 20899-8263 FAX: +1 301-975-4694