Issue 10817: Section: 21.3.13 (corba-rtf) Source: Remedy IT (Mr. Johnny Willemsen, jwillemsen(at)remedy.nl) Nature: Clarification Severity: Minor Summary: Table 21-1 has the following note: When ClientRequestInfo is passed to send_request, there is an entry in the list for every argument, whether in, inout, or out. But only the in and inout arguments will be available. What is the behaviour when I request an out value? It says only that in/inout are available, but when I have an argument that is of out and I do get the value, do I then get an empty value (which could lead to a crash when using it), do I get an exception? That must be clearly specified by the spec Resolution: Revised Text: Actions taken: March 13, 2007: received issue April 11, 2012: Deferred Discussion: End of Annotations:===== m: webmaster@omg.org Date: 13 Mar 2007 07:03:44 -0500 To: Subject: Issue/Bug Report -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name: Johnny Willemsen Company: Remedy IT mailFrom: jwillemsen@remedy.nl Notification: Yes Specification: CORBA Section: 21.3.13 FormalNumber: 04-03-12 Version: 3.0.3 RevisionDate: - Page: 21-26 Nature: Clarification Severity: Minor HTTP User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2) Gecko/20070219 Firefox/2.0.0.2 Description Table 21-1 has the following note: When ClientRequestInfo is passed to send_request, there is an entry in the list for every argument, whether in, inout, or out. But only the in and inout arguments will be available. What is the behaviour when I request an out value? It says only that in/inout are available, but when I have an argument that is of out and I do get the value, do I then get an empty value (which could lead to a crash when using it), do I get an exception? That must be clearly specified by the spec From: "Johnny Willemsen" To: , Subject: RE: issue 10817 -- Core RTF issue (to be re-chartered???) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 07:50:46 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acdlq15YxpA46CoeTgqxqbKmg6H+6gAWZf5g X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_FONT_COLOR_BLUE,HTML_MESSAGE,IN_REP_TO, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME,REFERENCES version=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at omg.org Hi, Given an exception seems not possible because is just a struct, but when the any related to an out argument is retrieved, what is for example the typecode of that any, what is the exact value? Johnny -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Juergen Boldt [mailto:juergen@omg.org] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 9:00 PM To: issues@omg.org; corba-rtf@omg.org Subject: issue 10817 -- Core RTF issue (to be re-chartered???) From: webmaster@omg.org Date: 13 Mar 2007 07:03:44 -0500 To: Subject: Issue/Bug Report -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name: Johnny Willemsen Company: Remedy IT mailFrom: jwillemsen@remedy.nl Notification: Yes Specification: CORBA Section: 21.3.13 FormalNumber: 04-03-12 Version: 3.0.3 RevisionDate: - Page: 21-26 Nature: Clarification Severity: Minor HTTP User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2) Gecko/20070219 Firefox/2.0.0.2 Description Table 21-1 has the following note: When ClientRequestInfo is passed to send_request, there is an entry in the list for every argument, whether in, inout, or out. But only the in and inout arguments will be available. What is the behaviour when I request an out value? It says only that in/inout are available, but when I have an argument that is of out and I do get the value, do I then get an empty value (which could lead to a crash when using it), do I get an exception? That must be clearly specified by the spec Juergen Boldt Director, Member Services Object Management Group 140 Kendrick St Building A Suite 300 Needham, MA 02494 USA tel: +1 781 444 0404 x 132 fax: +1 781 444 0320 email: juergen@omg.org www.omg.org X-Server-Uuid: 7829E76E-BB9E-4995-8473-3C0929DF7DD1 Subject: RE: issue 10817 -- Core RTF issue (to be re-chartered???) From: "Harold Herzig" To: "Johnny Willemsen" Cc: issues@omg.org, corba-rtf@omg.org Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 10:04:02 -0500 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.2 (2.2.2-5) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Mar 2007 15:04:03.0545 (UTC) FILETIME=[011A1C90:01C7664A] X-WSS-ID: 69E6D16E39O1655495-01-01 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at omg.org All - Suggest using a typecode of tk_null and a value of NULL. Anybody have an opinion on this? Hope this helps. - Harold Harold E. Herzig PrismTech Corporation http://www.prismtech.com +1-201-708-2919 On Wed, 2007-03-14 at 07:50 +0100, Johnny Willemsen wrote: > Hi, > > Given an exception seems not possible because is just a struct, but > when the any related to an out argument is retrieved, what is for > example the typecode of that any, what is the exact value? > > Johnny > > > ______________________________________________________________ > From: Juergen Boldt [mailto:juergen@omg.org] > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 9:00 PM > To: issues@omg.org; corba-rtf@omg.org > Subject: issue 10817 -- Core RTF issue (to be re-chartered???) > > > > > > From: webmaster@omg.org > > Date: 13 Mar 2007 07:03:44 -0500 > > To: > > Subject: Issue/Bug Report > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > * Name: Johnny Willemsen > > * Company: Remedy IT > > * mailFrom: jwillemsen@remedy.nl > > * Notification: Yes > > * Specification: CORBA > > * Section: 21.3.13 > > * FormalNumber: 04-03-12 > > * Version: 3.0.3 > > * RevisionDate: - > > * Page: 21-26 > > * Nature: Clarification > > * Severity: Minor > > * HTTP User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT > > 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2) Gecko/20070219 > > Firefox/2.0.0.2 > > > > > > Description > > > > > > Table 21-1 has the following note: When ClientRequestInfo is > > passed to send_request, there is an entry in the list for > > every argument, whether in, inout, or out. But only the in > > and inout arguments will be available. What is the behaviour > > when I request an out value? It says only that in/inout are > > available, but when I have an argument that is of out and I > > do get the value, do I then get an empty value (which could > > lead to a crash when using it), do I get an exception? That > > must be clearly specified by the spec > > Juergen Boldt > Director, Member Services > Object Management Group > 140 Kendrick St > Building A Suite 300 > Needham, MA 02494 > USA > > tel: +1 781 444 0404 x 132 > fax: +1 781 444 0320 > email: juergen@omg.org > www.omg.org From: "Johnny Willemsen" To: "'Harold Herzig'" Cc: , Subject: RE: issue 10817 -- Core RTF issue (to be re-chartered???) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:01:01 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcdmShnPWnCShTdJT1SnnORXUWF9ugAIF51A X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at omg.org Hi, Looks ok for me, then the last sentence of the footnote 1 below table 21-1 and 21-2 (the same is valid in serverrequestinfo) would become: But only the in and inout arguments will be available, the out arguments will have a TCKind value of tk_null and no value. Johnny > -----Original Message----- > From: Harold Herzig [mailto:harold.herzig@prismtech.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 4:04 PM > To: Johnny Willemsen > Cc: issues@omg.org; corba-rtf@omg.org > Subject: RE: issue 10817 -- Core RTF issue (to be re-chartered???) > > All - > Suggest using a typecode of tk_null and a value of NULL. > Anybody have an opinion on this? > Hope this helps. > - Harold > > Harold E. Herzig > PrismTech Corporation > http://www.prismtech.com > +1-201-708-2919 > > On Wed, 2007-03-14 at 07:50 +0100, Johnny Willemsen wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Given an exception seems not possible because is just a struct, but > > when the any related to an out argument is retrieved, what is for > > example the typecode of that any, what is the exact value? > > > > Johnny > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > From: Juergen Boldt [mailto:juergen@omg.org] > > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 9:00 PM > > To: issues@omg.org; corba-rtf@omg.org > > Subject: issue 10817 -- Core RTF issue (to be > re-chartered???) > > > > > > > > > > > From: webmaster@omg.org > > > Date: 13 Mar 2007 07:03:44 -0500 > > > To: > > > Subject: Issue/Bug Report > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > > * Name: Johnny Willemsen > > > * Company: Remedy IT > > > * mailFrom: jwillemsen@remedy.nl > > > * Notification: Yes > > > * Specification: CORBA > > > * Section: 21.3.13 > > > * FormalNumber: 04-03-12 > > > * Version: 3.0.3 > > > * RevisionDate: - > > > * Page: 21-26 > > > * Nature: Clarification > > > * Severity: Minor > > > * HTTP User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; > Windows NT > > > 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2) Gecko/20070219 > > > Firefox/2.0.0.2 > > > > > > > > > Description > > > > > > > > > Table 21-1 has the following note: When > ClientRequestInfo is > > > passed to send_request, there is an entry in the list for > > > every argument, whether in, inout, or out. But only the in > > > and inout arguments will be available. What is > the behaviour > > > when I request an out value? It says only that > in/inout are > > > available, but when I have an argument that is of > out and I > > > do get the value, do I then get an empty value > (which could > > > lead to a crash when using it), do I get an > exception? That > > > must be clearly specified by the spec > > > > Juergen Boldt > > Director, Member Services > > Object Management Group > > 140 Kendrick St > > Building A Suite 300 > > Needham, MA 02494 > > USA > > > > tel: +1 781 444 0404 x 132 > > fax: +1 781 444 0320 > > email: juergen@omg.org > > www.omg.org > X-Server-Uuid: 0764DD54-627B-4C45-B37D-789FBDEDA467 Subject: RE: issue 10817 -- Core RTF issue (to be re-chartered???) From: "Harold Herzig" To: "Johnny Willemsen" Cc: issues@omg.org, corba-rtf@omg.org Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:23:33 -0500 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.2 (2.2.2-5) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Mar 2007 14:23:36.0144 (UTC) FILETIME=[84ABDD00:01C7670D] X-WSS-ID: 69E789623ZW1606298-01-01 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at omg.org Hi - Don't understand what is meant by "no value". For good measure, suggest initializing the value to a known quantity, WOLOG NULL. (In my neighborhood, uninitialized data is generally frowned upon.) Regards....Harold On Wed, 2007-03-14 at 20:01 +0100, Johnny Willemsen wrote: > Hi, > > Looks ok for me, then the last sentence of the footnote 1 below table 21-1 > and 21-2 (the same is valid in serverrequestinfo) would become: > > But only the in and inout arguments will be available, the out arguments > will have a TCKind value of tk_null and no value. > > Johnny > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Harold Herzig [mailto:harold.herzig@prismtech.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 4:04 PM > > To: Johnny Willemsen > > Cc: issues@omg.org; corba-rtf@omg.org > > Subject: RE: issue 10817 -- Core RTF issue (to be re-chartered???) > > > > All - > > Suggest using a typecode of tk_null and a value of NULL. > > Anybody have an opinion on this? > > Hope this helps. > > - Harold > > > > Harold E. Herzig > > PrismTech Corporation > > http://www.prismtech.com > > +1-201-708-2919 > > > > On Wed, 2007-03-14 at 07:50 +0100, Johnny Willemsen wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Given an exception seems not possible because is just a struct, but > > > when the any related to an out argument is retrieved, what is for > > > example the typecode of that any, what is the exact value? > > > > > > Johnny > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > > From: Juergen Boldt [mailto:juergen@omg.org] > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 9:00 PM > > > To: issues@omg.org; corba-rtf@omg.org > > > Subject: issue 10817 -- Core RTF issue (to be > > re-chartered???) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: webmaster@omg.org > > > > Date: 13 Mar 2007 07:03:44 -0500 > > > > To: > > > > Subject: Issue/Bug Report > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > > > * Name: Johnny Willemsen > > > > * Company: Remedy IT > > > > * mailFrom: jwillemsen@remedy.nl > > > > * Notification: Yes > > > > * Specification: CORBA > > > > * Section: 21.3.13 > > > > * FormalNumber: 04-03-12 > > > > * Version: 3.0.3 > > > > * RevisionDate: - > > > > * Page: 21-26 > > > > * Nature: Clarification > > > > * Severity: Minor > > > > * HTTP User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; > > Windows NT > > > > 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2) Gecko/20070219 > > > > Firefox/2.0.0.2 > > > > > > > > > > > > Description > > > > > > > > > > > > Table 21-1 has the following note: When > > ClientRequestInfo is > > > > passed to send_request, there is an entry in the list for > > > > every argument, whether in, inout, or out. But only the in > > > > and inout arguments will be available. What is > > the behaviour > > > > when I request an out value? It says only that > > in/inout are > > > > available, but when I have an argument that is of > > out and I > > > > do get the value, do I then get an empty value > > (which could > > > > lead to a crash when using it), do I get an > > exception? That > > > > must be clearly specified by the spec > > > > > > Juergen Boldt > > > Director, Member Services > > > Object Management Group > > > 140 Kendrick St > > > Building A Suite 300 > > > Needham, MA 02494 > > > USA > > > > > > tel: +1 781 444 0404 x 132 > > > fax: +1 781 444 0320 > > > email: juergen@omg.org > > > www.omg.org > > > >