Issue 13922: Figures 10.18 and 10.19 are presented as though they are logical equivalents in the description above 10.19. (bpmn-rtf) Source: (, ) Nature: Clarification Severity: Minor Summary: Figures 10.18 and 10.19 are presented as though they are logical equivalents in the description above 10.19. However, In Figure 10.19 it is possible both Condition 1 and 2 could be true causing all three transitions to be traversed. This is not possible in 10.18 because of the exclusive gate. To make the two diagrams behave the same, the default slash should be added to the Condition 1 transition coming from the Inclusive gate on diagram 10.19. This will insure either Condition 1 XOR Condition 2 is traversed, but not both inclusively as is possible in the current spec. If the diagrams are not to be taken as logical equivalents, the text just under Figure 10.18 should be changed to make this clearer and the Activity names should be made different so equivalence is not implied. Resolution: Revised Text: Actions taken: May 7, 2009: received issue Discussion: End of Annotations:===== m: webmaster@omg.org Date: 06 May 2009 23:41:43 -0400 To: Subject: Issue/Bug Report -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name: Roy Massie Company: SunGard mailFrom: roy.massie@sungard.com Notification: Yes Specification: BPMN Section: 10.2.1.1 FormalNumber: formal/2009-01-03 Version: 1.2 RevisionDate: 01/01/2009 Page: 109 Nature: Clarification Severity: Minor HTTP User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322) Description Figures 10.18 and 10.19 are presented as though they are logical equivalents in the description above 10.19. However, In Figure 10.19 it is possible both Condition 1 and 2 could be true causing all three transitions to be traversed. This is not possible in 10.18 because of the exclusive gate. To make the two diagrams behave the same, the default slash should be added to the Condition 1 transition coming from the Inclusive gate on diagram 10.19. This will insure either Condition 1 XOR Condition 2 is traversed, but not both inclusively as is possible in the current spec. If the diagrams are not to be taken as logical equivalents, the text just under Figure 10.18 should be changed to make this clearer and the Activity names should be made different so equivalence is not implied. X-BigFish: VPS-45(z21cILz62a3L8a5Sf01M18c1J936eQ936fJ8c3I9371Pf4eM8a89s8c8aizz1202h1239izz7b01n2846iz2dh6bh43j61h) X-Spam-TCS-SCL: 0:0 Subject: RE: issue 13922 -- BPMN RTF issue Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 14:35:39 -0400 X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: issue 13922 -- BPMN RTF issue Thread-Index: AcnPPdg5vD4dM20wSpattphUDCeTsAABIynA From: To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 May 2009 18:35:41.0852 (UTC) FILETIME=[A027BDC0:01C9CF42] Juergen, To clarify this request a little further. I think Condition 1 should be removed from Figure 10.19 and the default slash should be added on that transition. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Juergen Boldt [mailto:juergen@omg.org] Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 12:59 PM To: Massie, Roy Subject: Fwd: issue 13922 -- BPMN RTF issue X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 13:53:16 -0400 To: issues@omg.org, bpmn-rtf@omg.org From: Juergen Boldt Subject: issue 13922 -- BPMN RTF issue From: webmaster@omg.org Date: 06 May 2009 23:41:43 -0400 To: Subject: Issue/Bug Report -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name: Roy Massie Company: SunGard mailFrom: roy.massie@sungard.com Notification: Yes Specification: BPMN Section: 10.2.1.1 FormalNumber: formal/2009-01-03 Version: 1.2 RevisionDate: 01/01/2009 Page: 109 Nature: Clarification Severity: Minor HTTP User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322) Description Figures 10.18 and 10.19 are presented as though they are logical equivalents in the description above 10.19. However, In Figure 10.19 it is possible both Condition 1 and 2 could be true causing all three transitions to be traversed. This is not possible in 10.18 because of the exclusive gate. To make the two diagrams behave the same, the default slash should be added to the Condition 1 transition coming from the Inclusive gate on diagram 10.19. This will insure either Condition 1 XOR Condition 2 is traversed, but not both inclusively as is possible in the current spec. If the diagrams are not to be taken as logical equivalents, the text just under Figure 10.18 should be changed to make this clearer and the Activity names should be made different so equivalence is not implied. Juergen Boldt Director, Member Services Object Management Group 140 Kendrick St Building A Suite 300 Needham, MA 02494 USA tel: +1 781 444 0404 x 132 fax: +1 781 444 0320 email: juergen@omg.org www.omg.org Juergen Boldt Director, Member Services Object Management Group 140 Kendrick St Building A Suite 300 Needham, MA 02494 USA tel: +1 781 444 0404 x 132 fax: +1 781 444 0320 email: juergen@omg.org www.omg.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 14:45:09 -0400 To: bpmn-rtf@omg.org From: Juergen Boldt Subject: Fwd: RE: issue 13922 -- BPMN RTF issue X-BigFish: VPS-45(z21cILz62a3L8a5Sf01M18c1J936eQ936fJ8c3I9371Pf4eM8a89s8c8aizz1202h1239izz7b01n2846iz2dh6bh43j61h) X-Spam-TCS-SCL: 0:0 Subject: RE: issue 13922 -- BPMN RTF issue Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 14:35:39 -0400 X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: issue 13922 -- BPMN RTF issue Thread-Index: AcnPPdg5vD4dM20wSpattphUDCeTsAABIynA From: To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 May 2009 18:35:41.0852 (UTC) FILETIME=[A027BDC0:01C9CF42] Juergen, To clarify this request a little further. I think Condition 1 should be removed from Figure 10.19 and the default slash should be added on that transition. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Juergen Boldt [ mailto:juergen@omg.org] Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 12:59 PM To: Massie, Roy Subject: Fwd: issue 13922 -- BPMN RTF issue X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 13:53:16 -0400 To: issues@omg.org, bpmn-rtf@omg.org From: Juergen Boldt Subject: issue 13922 -- BPMN RTF issue From: webmaster@omg.org Date: 06 May 2009 23:41:43 -0400 To: Subject: Issue/Bug Report -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name: Roy Massie Company: SunGard mailFrom: roy.massie@sungard.com Notification: Yes Specification: BPMN Section: 10.2.1.1 FormalNumber: formal/2009-01-03 Version: 1.2 RevisionDate: 01/01/2009 Page: 109 Nature: Clarification Severity: Minor HTTP User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322) Description Figures 10.18 and 10.19 are presented as though they are logical equivalents in the description above 10.19. However, In Figure 10.19 it is possible both Condition 1 and 2 could be true causing all three transitions to be traversed. This is not possible in 10.18 because of the exclusive gate. To make the two diagrams behave the same, the default slash should be added to the Condition 1 transition coming from the Inclusive gate on diagram 10.19. This will insure either Condition 1 XOR Condition 2 is traversed, but not both inclusively as is possible in the current spec. If the diagrams are not to be taken as logical equivalents, the text just under Figure 10.18 should be changed to make this clearer and the Activity names should be made different so equivalence is not implied. Juergen Boldt Director, Member Services Object Management Group 140 Kendrick St Building A Suite 300 Needham, MA 02494 USA tel: +1 781 444 0404 x 132 fax: +1 781 444 0320 email: juergen@omg.org www.omg.org Juergen Boldt Director, Member Services Object Management Group 140 Kendrick St Building A Suite 300 Needham, MA 02494 USA tel: +1 781 444 0404 x 132 fax: +1 781 444 0320 email: juergen@omg.org www.omg.org Juergen Boldt Director, Member Services Object Management Group 140 Kendrick St Building A Suite 300 Needham, MA 02494 USA tel: +1 781 444 0404 x 132 fax: +1 781 444 0320 email: juergen@omg.org www.omg.org