Issue 14774: Section 9 Collaboration [Choreography; Specification, Metamodel]: (bpmn2-rtf) Source: Department of Veterans Affairs (Dr. Stephen White, steve.white(at)bookzurman.com) Nature: Enhancement Severity: Significant Summary: Section 9 Collaboration [Choreography; Specification, Metamodel]: Clarify that a pool represents a single BPMN process, not a "participant" meaning role or business entity ##Source: IBM (Stephen A. White, wstephe@us.ibm.com) ##Original Issue: http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPMN-299 ##Original Info: (Severity: Significant - Nature: Enhancement) This is number 2 of 12 issues submitted by Bruce Silver Clarify that a pool represents a single BPMN process, not a "participant" meaning role or business entity. At least do this for a white box pool (aka private process); a black box pool (abstract process) is empty of activities, so its process is unknown and often labeled as role or business entity. Also remove the language that multiple pools in a BPD are about B2B. This is rarely the case. Multiple white box pools in a BPD are used when the processes involved have independent lifetimes and cardinality, and almost always when both pools represent the same business entity not B2B. Resolution: The FTF agrees that there is a problem that needs fixing, but did not agree on a resolution and deferred its resolution to a future RTF/FTF. Disposition: Deferred Revised Text: Actions taken: November 23, 2009: received issue Discussion: Comments: From: bruce created: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 17:51:52 -0600 (CST) I suspect I will not carry the day on this one. I see there was language to this effect in early November and then deleted later. Can we at least say that a pool may contain at most one process? From: wstephe created: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 14:28:08 -0500 (CDT) The section number was removed from the Summary to allow this to apply to the Beta 1 spec End of Annotations:===== ection 9 Collaboration [Choreography; Specification, Metamodel]: Clarify that a pool represents a single BPMN process, not a "participant" meaning role or business entity ##Source: IBM (Stephen A. White, wstephe@us.ibm.com) ##Original Issue: http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPMN-299 ##Original Info: (Severity: Significant - Nature: Enhancement) This is number 2 of 12 issues submitted by Bruce Silver Clarify that a pool represents a single BPMN process, not a "participant" meaning role or business entity. At least do this for a white box pool (aka private process); a black box pool (abstract process) is empty of activities, so its process is unknown and often labeled as role or business entity. Also remove the language that multiple pools in a BPD are about B2B. This is rarely the case. Multiple white box pools in a BPD are used when the processes involved have independent lifetimes and cardinality, and almost always when both pools represent the same business entity not B2B. Comments: From: bruce created: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 17:51:52 -0600 (CST) I suspect I will not carry the day on this one. I see there was language to this effect in early November and then deleted later. Can we at least say that a pool may contain at most one process? From: wstephe created: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 14:28:08 -0500 (CDT) The section number was removed from the Summary to allow this to apply to the Beta 1 spec