Issue 15153: New SBVR Issue: "Template" & "Templating (sbvr-rtf) Source: Business Rule Solutions, LLC (Mr. Ron Ross, rross(at)brsolutions.com) Nature: Uncategorized Issue Severity: Summary: 11.1.5.1 Kinds of Fact Type Problem Statement [Verb concept] templating could be interpreted to mean that SBVR gives templates *for* fact types, but that is not really the case. Template or 'templating' fails to accurately convey that the section is simply listing the common business-facing kinds of fact types practitioners would regularly want to define. Template or 'templating' connotes purpose, but a good name for a concept should indicate only essence. Proposed Resolution * A better signifier for the concept meant by verb concept templating should be based on the word structural. Structural is already accepted in SBVR for signifying things related to establishing the meanings of concepts (i.e., definitional matters). Specifically, it has been used in structural rules. * I used the term "element of structure" in Business Rule Concepts, 3rd Ed (several 1000 copies not distributed). So I would like to see some use of "structural" here. * Possible signifiers include "structural shape, "structural form", "structural purpose", "structural role" or "structural pattern". Note I the interest of moving forward with RTF work, I could live with synonyms for any use of "template" or "templating" in this section. Resolution: Revised Text: Actions taken: March 25, 2010: received issue Discussion: End of Annotations:===== hoo-SMTP: MhfrpU2swBDLgYiYhNQDHBu0cE4o.vu2We1FRN9o X-YMail-OSG: .RX8kjUVM1k9zBuFk4M6vJSP5o0Dk1znWa6KovyYfOGrJRCNoDw4qP6zQb.03k5cDLDVfoR_mOBNZRdnUElKQNT4ptlo_9w.0_V5b139VOP.jz5C6WiFm0QomTlPclekXG9EZHEAhVtSUBBAbj0qpF81Jc748sOCZTZ3QtAmoPr7yyNGgqJsFpAy97hMtXrOXR8zlmg7HXBsivDGlzWrPF_GBV_nnDk0syCFLwuIWPcE00AhvbBuVkqUC3Wj9imkWA-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 11:52:21 -0500 To: sbvr-rtf@omg.org, juergen@omg.org From: "Ronald G. Ross" Subject: New SBVR Issue: "Template" & "Templating" 11.1.5.1 Kinds of Fact Type Problem Statement [Verb concept] templating could be interpreted to mean that SBVR gives templates *for* fact types, but that is not really the case. Templateor 'templating' fails to accurately convey that the section is simply listing the common business-facing kinds of fact types practitioners would regularly want to define. Templateor 'templating' connotes purpose, but a good name for a concept should indicate only essence. Proposed Resolution * A better signifier for the concept meant by verb concept templating should be based on the word structural. Structural is already accepted in SBVR for signifying things related to establishing the meanings of concepts (i.e., definitional matters). Specifically, it has been used in structural rules. * I used the term "element of structure" in Business Rule Concepts, 3rd Ed (several 1000 copies not distributed). So I would like to see some use of "structural" here. * Possible signifiers include "structural shape, "structural form", "structural purpose", "structural role" or "structural pattern". Note I the interest of moving forward with RTF work, I could live with synonyms for any use of "template" or "templating" in this section. X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=5.0.0-0908210000 definitions=main-1003250156 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 07:29:31 -1000 Subject: Re: New SBVR Issue: "Template" & "Templating" From: keri To: SBVR RTF Thread-topic: New SBVR Issue: "Template" & "Templating" Thread-index: AcrMQLpb+QVPfzgzEd+5cQARJM+Cgg== On 3/25/10 6:52 AM, "Ronald G. Ross" wrote: X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=5.0.0-0908210000 definitions=main-1003250156 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 07:29:31 -1000 Subject: Re: New SBVR Issue: "Template" & "Templating" From: keri To: SBVR RTF Thread-topic: New SBVR Issue: "Template" & "Templating" Thread-index: AcrMQLpb+QVPfzgzEd+5cQARJM+Cgg== On 3/25/10 6:52 AM, "Ronald G. Ross" wrote: Problem Statement [Verb concept] templating could be interpreted to mean that SBVR gives templates *for* fact types, but that is not really the case. ... Hmmm... I don't agree with this part of the Problem Statement. I think it does provide 'templates', in the sense of 'design pattern' (or, simply, 'pattern') -- i.e., "a general reusable solution to a commonly occurring problem." SBVR provides constructs and users [re]use them in particular ways based on what the user is trying to do. I hope we don't lose that sense of the guidance this section provides. X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=3 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1010190000 definitions=main-1101060092 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-01-06_11:2011-01-06,2011-01-06,1970-01-01 signatures=0 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 12:12:45 -1000 Subject: Re: issue 15153 -- SBVR RTF issue - RESOLUTION From: keri To: SBVR RTF Thread-topic: issue 15153 -- SBVR RTF issue - RESOLUTION Thread-index: Acut7tggFszYIBniEeCL4xCa3ahe4g== Per Dec. meeting, Resolution write-up is attached. ~ Keri On 4/7/10 3:08 AM, "Juergen Boldt" wrote: Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 11:52:21 -0500 To: sbvr-rtf@omg.org, juergen@omg.org From: "Ronald G. Ross" Subject: New SBVR Issue: "Template" & "Templating" 11.1.5.1 Kinds of Fact Type Problem Statement [Verb concept] templating could be interpreted to mean that SBVR gives templates *for* fact types, but that is not really the case. Template or 'templating' fails to accurately convey that the section is simply listing the common business-facing kinds of fact types practitioners would regularly want to define. Template or 'templating' connotes purpose, but a good name for a concept should indicate only essence. Proposed Resolution * A better signifier for the concept meant by verb concept templating should be based on the word structural. Structural is already accepted in SBVR for signifying things related to establishing the meanings of concepts (i.e., definitional matters). Specifically, it has been used in structural rules. * I used the term "element of structure" in Business Rule Concepts, 3rd Ed (several 1000 copies not distributed). So I would like to see some use of "structural" here. * Possible signifiers include "structural shape, "structural form", "structural purpose", "structural role" or "structural pattern". Note I the interest of moving forward with RTF work, I could live with synonyms for any use of "template" or "templating" in this section. Juergen Boldt Director, Member Services Object Management Group 140 Kendrick St Building A Suite 300 Needham, MA 02494 USA tel: +1 781 444 0404 x 132 fax: +1 781 444 0320 email: juergen@omg.org www.omg.org Issue15153-RESOLUTION.doc