Issue 2898: Why are Standard Exceptions defined in IDL chapter? (orb_revision) Source: Hewlett-Packard (Dr. Jishnu Mukerji, jishnu(at)hp.com) Nature: Uncategorized Issue Severity: Summary: I was wondering why the Standard Exception definitions are in Chapter 3 IDL Syntax and Semantics. Shouldn't they be better in Chapter 4 ORB Interfaces? I would like to get a feel for how the RTF membership feels about moving the entire section 3.21 from Chapter 3 to Chapter 4. Resolution: Revised Text: Actions taken: October 13, 1999: received issue October 30, 2000: closed issue Discussion: End of Annotations:===== Sender: jis@fpk.hp.com Message-ID: <38051633.9AB0CCB0@fpk.hp.com> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 19:30:59 -0400 From: Jishnu Mukerji Organization: Hewlett-Packard EIAL X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; U; HP-UX B.11.00 9000/889) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: orb_revision@omg.org Subject: Why are Standard Exceptions defined in IDL chapter? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-UIDL: >$j!!l_Fe9X+A!!O+ad9 I was wondering why the Standard Exception definitions are in Chapter 3 IDL Syntax and Semantics. Shouldn't they be better in Chapter 4 ORB Interfaces? I would like to get a feel for how the RTF membership feels about moving the entire section 3.21 from Chapter 3 to Chapter 4. Thanks, Jishnu. -- Jishnu Mukerji Systems Architect Email: jis@fpk.hp.com Hewlett-Packard EIAL, Tel: +1 973 443 7528 300 Campus Drive, 2E-62, Fax: +1 973 443 7422 Florham Park, NJ 07932, USA. Sender: jon@floorboard.com Message-ID: <38052CCD.CED4B394@floorboard.com> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 18:07:25 -0700 From: Jonathan Biggar X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: orb_revision@omg.org Subject: Re: Why are Standard Exceptions defined in IDL chapter? References: <38051633.9AB0CCB0@fpk.hp.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-UIDL: 2[Pe9U""e96@6e9#]od9 Jishnu Mukerji wrote: > > I was wondering why the Standard Exception definitions are in > Chapter 3 IDL > Syntax and Semantics. Shouldn't they be better in Chapter 4 ORB > Interfaces? > I would like to get a feel for how the RTF membership feels about > moving the > entire section 3.21 from Chapter 3 to Chapter 4. I really don't see this as a pressing issue. Chapter 3 introduces the concept of an exception, and it is pretty natural to describe the difference here between user and system exceptions, and once you have done that, you might as well enumerate the system exceptions. -- Jon Biggar Floorboard Software jon@floorboard.com jon@biggar.org Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 11:14:30 +1000 (EST) From: Michi Henning X-Sender: michi@bobo.triodia.com To: Jishnu Mukerji cc: orb_revision@omg.org Subject: Re: Why are Standard Exceptions defined in IDL chapter? In-Reply-To: <38051633.9AB0CCB0@fpk.hp.com> Message-ID: Organization: Object Oriented Concepts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-UIDL: 4<~!!~0@e9M~od9C]%!! On Wed, 13 Oct 1999, Jishnu Mukerji wrote: > I was wondering why the Standard Exception definitions are in Chapter 3 IDL > Syntax and Semantics. Shouldn't they be better in Chapter 4 ORB Interfaces? > I would like to get a feel for how the RTF membership feels about moving the > entire section 3.21 from Chapter 3 to Chapter 4. I don't mind particularly. They've always been in chapter 3, so I guess that's why they are still there :-) Given that system exceptions (or standard exceptions? :-) are not visible in IDL at all, I agree that they probably should be moved out of chapter 3. Cheers, Michi. -- Michi Henning +61 7 3236 1633 Object Oriented Concepts +61 4 1118 2700 (mobile) PO Box 372 +61 7 3211 0047 (fax) Annerley 4103 michi@ooc.com.au AUSTRALIA http://www.ooc.com X-Sender: giddiv@gamma Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <38051633.9AB0CCB0@fpk.hp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 22:59:35 -0400 To: Michi Henning From: Victor Giddings Subject: Re: Why are Standard Exceptions defined in IDL chapter? Cc: Jishnu Mukerji , orb_revision@omg.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-UIDL: I(/!!8~a!!*j+!!6m8!! At 11:14 AM +1000 10/14/99, Michi Henning wrote: >On Wed, 13 Oct 1999, Jishnu Mukerji wrote: > >> I was wondering why the Standard Exception definitions are in Chapter 3 IDL >> Syntax and Semantics. Shouldn't they be better in Chapter 4 ORB Interfaces? >> I would like to get a feel for how the RTF membership feels about moving the >> entire section 3.21 from Chapter 3 to Chapter 4. > >I don't mind particularly. They've always been in chapter 3, so I guess that's >why they are still there :-) > >Given that system exceptions (or standard exceptions? :-) are not visible >in IDL at all, I agree that they probably should be moved out of chapter 3. > > Cheers, > > Michi. As a suggestion, I can find no real description of the requirements for the semantics of an invocation, outside of the overview in the object model section. It would seem that description of the standard system exception would follow the description of the possible outcomes of making an invocation. Victor Giddings victor.giddings@ois.com Senior Product Engineer Objective Interface Systems 703-295-6500 1892 Preston White Drive Fax: 703-295-6501 Reston, VA 22091-5448 Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 08:34:51 -0400 From: Paul H Kyzivat Organization: NobleNet X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jishnu Mukerji CC: orb_revision@omg.org Subject: Re: Why are Standard Exceptions defined in IDL chapter? X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <38051633.9AB0CCB0@fpk.hp.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-UIDL: !p"!!f+id9eLN!!6o)!! Jishnu Mukerji wrote: > > I would like to get a feel for how the RTF membership feels about > moving the entire section 3.21 from Chapter 3 to Chapter 4. Seems reasonable to me. Reply-To: From: "Nick Sharman" To: "Jishnu Mukerji" Cc: References: <38051633.9AB0CCB0@fpk.hp.com> Subject: Re: Why are Standard Exceptions defined in IDL chapter? Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 14:24:36 +0100 Organization: NobleNet Message-ID: <3805CDEB.AAD83276@roguewave.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0 [en] (WinNT; I) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-UIDL: c49cf6fdbad72c7e979b536d896cddf8 Jishnu Mukerji wrote: > > I would like to get a feel for how the RTF membership feels about > moving the entire section 3.21 from Chapter 3 to Chapter 4. Feels fine to me. Nick --------------------------------- Nick Sharman DAIS Product Architect PeerLogic Ltd Pickford St, Macclesfield, Cheshire SK11 6JD, UK phone: +44 1625 616722 ext 24 fax: +44 1625 616780 mailto:nick.sharman@peerlogic.com http://www.peerlogic.com