Issue 9176: Athena BMM and BPMN comments (bmm-ftf) Source: (, ) Nature: Uncategorized Issue Severity: Summary: see document bei/05-10-01 ( http://doc.omg.org/bei/05-10-01 ): Resolution: Full specification of the concepts mentioned is beyond the scope of BMM. They are handled by placeholders for reference to other specifications: 1. Process: BMM has a placeholder for business process. The full metamodel for business process is being addressed in the OMG's Business Process Definition Metamodel (BPDM). 2. Organization: BMM has a placeholder for Organization Unit. The full metamodel for organization structure is being addressed in the OMG's Organization Structure Metamodel (OSM). 3. Product: the resolution of BMM issue 9114 includes a placeholder for Resource. Product would be a category of resource. There is, as yet, no OMG specification under development for a metamodel of resources. 4. Systems: as 3 5. Derived aspects like decisional structure derived from processes: this seems like a concept that would fit under Assessment in the BMM, but it is very broad. Proposal: postpone consideration of this for inclusion in the BMM until the OMG has at least an RFP for a metamodel of business intelligence and decision support. Revised Text: closed no change Actions taken: November 28, 2005: received issue January 15, 2008: closed issue Discussion: Discussion: While the Issue may be valid, it represents potentially significant modifications. Thus, this Issue will be deferred and handled by a later version of BPMN. Disposition: Deferred End of Annotations:===== ubject: Proposed Resolution for Issue 9176 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 7.0 HF242 April 21, 2006 From: Stephen A White Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 14:40:20 -0700 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM690/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0.1HF269 | June 22, 2006) at 08/08/2006 15:40:21, Serialize complete at 08/08/2006 15:40:21 Issue Resolution: To: bpmn-ftf@omg.org Subject: Re: Proposed Resolution for Issue 9176 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 7.0 HF242 April 21, 2006 From: Stephen A White Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 16:34:09 -0700 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM690/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0.1HF269 | June 22, 2006) at 08/08/2006 17:34:10, Serialize complete at 08/08/2006 17:34:10 Here is the link and the description: http://www.bpmn.org/FTF/Issues/Issue%209176.htm Description: Extracted from document bei/05-10-01: In order to be attractive for all enterprise stakeholder a link from BPMN (Process Level) to Business level is required. The POP* methodology had used from BPDM some principles for defining the process meta model. Our proposal is to integrate into BPMN annotations to the POP* elements. This will make it easier both to transform BPMN models to enterprise modelling languages and to translate enterprise models to BPMN in a standardised way. Stephen A White/Irvine/IBM@IBMUS 08/08/2006 02:40 PM To bpmn-ftf@omg.org cc Subject Proposed Resolution for Issue 9176 Issue Resolution: Defer: While the Issue may be valid, it represents potentially significant modifications. Thus, this Issue will be deferred and handled by a later version of BPMN. Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 10:21:29 -0500 From: John Hall Reply-To: john.hall@modelsys.com Organization: Model Systems User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en To: BMM FTF Subject: [BMM] Issue 9176 Comments from Athena project X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 mlx=0 adultscore=0 adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=3.1.0-0610180000 definitions=main-0611060054 Hello all, Attached is my proposal for BMM Issue 9176 Regards, John BMM Issue 9176 Athena.doc Disposition: Resolved OMG Issue No: 9176 Title: Athena comments Source: name Summary: BMM aims at integrating specifications for business processes, business rules and organization structures. However, business contains a lot more aspects of enterprises which have to be taken into account. Therefore, other major dimensions of an enterprise are included into the POP* methodology, developed in the ATHENA-IP project: 1. Processes (including global, strategic, management, operational processes and tasks) 2. Organization (including structure, people, organizational units, informal and formal relationships) 3. Product as the asset for getting money (Structure, component, variants) 4. Systems necessary to support processes (IT-Infrastructure, Manufacturing-Infrastructure, documentation) 5. Derived aspects like decisional structure derived from processes Resolution: Full specification of the concepts mentioned is beyond the scope of BMM. They are handled by placeholders for reference to other specifications: 1. Process: BMM has a placeholder for business process. The full metamodel for business process is being addressed in the OMG.s Business Process Definition Metamodel (BPDM). 2. Organization: BMM has a placeholder for Organization Unit. The full metamodel for organization structure is being addressed in the OMG.s Organization Structure Metamodel (OSM). 3. Product: the resolution of BMM issue 9114 includes a placeholder for Resource. Product would be a category of resource. There is, as yet, no OMG specification under development for a metamodel of resources. 4. Systems: as 3 5. Derived aspects like decisional structure derived from processes: this seems like a concept that would fit under Assessment in the BMM, but it is very broad. Proposal: postpone consideration of this for inclusion in the BMM until the OMG has at least an RFP for a metamodel of business intelligence and decision support. Revised Text: None Disposition: Resolved Subject: RE: [BMM] Issue 9176 Comments from Athena project Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 22:04:28 -0600 X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [BMM] Issue 9176 Comments from Athena project Thread-Index: AccCgVkeBTiLVg2LSF+oQyyw93zBoQAaXWPA From: "Cummins, Fred A" To: , "BMM FTF" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Nov 2006 04:04:30.0397 (UTC) FILETIME=[FD9E6ED0:01C702EA] X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by amethyst.omg.org id kA840fIW026745 John, I'm not convinced that some reference to product should not be in BMM. Not a product as e.g., inventory, but product as something with market demand, cost, quality, etc. Fred >-----Original Message----- >From: John Hall [mailto:john.hall@modelsys.com] >Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 10:21 AM >To: BMM FTF >Subject: [BMM] Issue 9176 Comments from Athena project > >Hello all, > >Attached is my proposal for BMM Issue 9176 > >Regards, > >John > Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 15:49:26 -0500 From: John Hall Reply-To: john.hall@modelsys.com Organization: Model Systems User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en To: "Cummins, Fred A" Cc: BMM FTF Subject: Re: [BMM] Issue 9176 Comments from Athena project [+ Issue 9114] Fred, I've made a second attempt at Issue 9114, including "Offering", which covers both Product and Service and, I hope, addresses your concern about Product in Issue 9176. With this version, I have removed the direct association between Directive and Resource. I think that it's now covered via Directive's associations with Course of Action and Business Process. Regards, John Cummins, Fred A wrote: John, I'm not convinced that some reference to product should not be in BMM. Not a product as e.g., inventory, but product as something with market demand, cost, quality, etc. Fred -----Original Message----- From: John Hall [mailto:john.hall@modelsys.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 10:21 AM To: BMM FTF Subject: [BMM] Issue 9176 Comments from Athena project Hello all, Attached is my proposal for BMM Issue 9176 Regards, John BMM Issue 9114 Asset V2.doc Subject: RE: [BMM] Issue 9176 Comments from Athena project [+ Issue 9114] Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 22:48:56 -0600 X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [BMM] Issue 9176 Comments from Athena project [+ Issue 9114] Thread-Index: AccDd5xL+Cn/zKtwSf6LlRvWKt6yVgANE4fA From: "Cummins, Fred A" To: Cc: "BMM FTF" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Nov 2006 04:48:57.0603 (UTC) FILETIME=[5DCF8530:01C703BA] X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by amethyst.omg.org id kA94jCBx021120 John, Looks good. Fred -----Original Message----- From: John Hall [mailto:john.hall@modelsys.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 3:49 PM To: Cummins, Fred A Cc: BMM FTF Subject: Re: [BMM] Issue 9176 Comments from Athena project [+ Issue 9114] Fred, I've made a second attempt at Issue 9114, including "Offering", which covers both Product and Service and, I hope, addresses your concern about Product in Issue 9176. With this version, I have removed the direct association between Directive and Resource. I think that it's now covered via Directive's associations with Course of Action and Business Process. Regards, John Cummins, Fred A wrote: >John, > >I'm not convinced that some reference to product should not be in BMM. >Not a product as e.g., inventory, but product as something with market >demand, cost, quality, etc. > >Fred > > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: John Hall [mailto:john.hall@modelsys.com] >>Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 10:21 AM >>To: BMM FTF >>Subject: [BMM] Issue 9176 Comments from Athena project >> >>Hello all, >> >>Attached is my proposal for BMM Issue 9176 >> >>Regards, >> >>John >> >> Defer: While the Issue may be valid, it represents potentially significant modifications. Thus, this Issue will be deferred and handled by a later version of BPMN.